Rye Patch Gold Light was in der luft!
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05.12.11 21:38
#77
Ggordie
Oder um es anders auszudrücken
Kauft diese verdammte Aktie bevor sie zu teuer wird.
Leute die in Minen-Aktien ihr Glück suchten, sollten dringend ihre Dinger verscherbeln und hier reinkommen.
Leute die in Minen-Aktien ihr Glück suchten, sollten dringend ihre Dinger verscherbeln und hier reinkommen.
05.12.11 21:46
#78
Italymaster
hab heut
meinen coba call mit 800 euro verlust verkauft - rye patch hat den ganzen vvt wieder platt gemacht - hab auch nachgekauft bei rye patch nachm auscashen - war aber wohl n bisschen früh - aber egal - wenn es wieder fällt kauf ich eben wieder nach. selbst wenn es 1-2 jahre liegen bleibt - des ding is ja ein quasi selbstläufer
05.12.11 21:54
#80
CK2004
... es könnte auch ein wenig mehr sein!
Wenn man die nachfolgende Nachricht liest, dann kann es durchaus auch etwas mehr sein! In dem Artikel ist wird von 45-90 Mio Unzen gesprochen (lt. Aussage Bill Howard, den CEO von Rye!!)
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=27805506
"I am initiating a position of Rye Patch Gold Corp (RPM.v) today at about 65-66c. I believe it is a special situation that warrant the chase here. I talked to the CEO Bill Howard while he was in London today. Basically they took over the claims of most of the Rochester mine of CDE. CDE failed to file the extension of the claim this year and RPM who knows the area well took it. Now from my understanding is that CDE Rochester mine can't operate without these claims that RPM took. According to Bill Howard, there are about 50-100 million oz of silver on the claim RPM got. I did some rough calculations, 50-100 million oz of silver from an existing silver mine probably worth 200 million at least. RPM.v market cap is only about 80 million. I am buying here as special situation."
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/readmsg.aspx?msgid=27805506
"I am initiating a position of Rye Patch Gold Corp (RPM.v) today at about 65-66c. I believe it is a special situation that warrant the chase here. I talked to the CEO Bill Howard while he was in London today. Basically they took over the claims of most of the Rochester mine of CDE. CDE failed to file the extension of the claim this year and RPM who knows the area well took it. Now from my understanding is that CDE Rochester mine can't operate without these claims that RPM took. According to Bill Howard, there are about 50-100 million oz of silver on the claim RPM got. I did some rough calculations, 50-100 million oz of silver from an existing silver mine probably worth 200 million at least. RPM.v market cap is only about 80 million. I am buying here as special situation."
05.12.11 21:58
#82
Italymaster
was bedeutet dies denn nun
für den kurs? soviel ich weiß, kommt nämlich am 15.12 ebenfalls noch ein ressourcenupdate - falls ich das noch richtig in erinnerung habe - wie gehts nun weiter - wenn ich es richtig verstanden habe, dann hat rochester dort die mine, aber nicht mehr die rechte - müssen sie dann rye patch die rechte abkaufen oder bohrt und gräbt nun rye patch vor ort?
05.12.11 22:01
#83
Ggordie
Entweder
1. beteiligt Rochester Rye´n erheblich am Gewinn
2. zieht sich Rochester zurück
3. wird versucht Rye aufzukaufen
etc.
Gibt unterschiedliche Möglichkeiten, aber
man kann nur Gewinnen :-)
2. zieht sich Rochester zurück
3. wird versucht Rye aufzukaufen
etc.
Gibt unterschiedliche Möglichkeiten, aber
man kann nur Gewinnen :-)
05.12.11 22:02
#84
Ggordie
Wobei Rye auch schon
Geologen dort nun hingeschickt hat, um sich ihren neuen Besitz anzuschauen.
Wird spaßig!
Wird spaßig!
05.12.11 22:10
#85
Italymaster
hm
wenn es sich um dieses rochester handelt, dürfte es wohl für die schwierig werden rye patch zu kaufen
http://www.ariva.de/rochester_res_ltd-aktie
:)
http://www.ariva.de/rochester_res_ltd-aktie
:)
05.12.11 22:18
#87
Italymaster
oh :)
na gut, dass ist natürlich was andres - aber da stellt sich mir die frage, ob ein big player wirklich soetwas versäumt - zumindest würde ich aus dem kurs drauß schließen, dass es sich um einen big player handelt - hätte gerne, dass rye patch so einen kurs hat
05.12.11 22:22
#88
Ggordie
...
Ja, es ist ein big player.
Daher auch der Witz ... ist alles schon amtlich und so.
Ich sag ja, kauft euch ein bevor es zu spät ist. :-D
Daher auch der Witz ... ist alles schon amtlich und so.
Ich sag ja, kauft euch ein bevor es zu spät ist. :-D
05.12.11 22:29
#90
Ggordie
...
Cormack hat heute weitere 270 k und Merill Lynch 230 k Aktien gekauft.
06.12.11 08:35
#93
Ggordie
@Italymaster
Hab es aus einem anderen Forum, ob die Angabe stimmt wär weiß.
Naja aber ich bin nun wieder wach :-D
Möge der Spaß weitergehen.
Naja aber ich bin nun wieder wach :-D
Möge der Spaß weitergehen.
06.12.11 08:42
#95
Ggordie
Der Umsatz
am Morgen lässt sich auch schon sehen, bis die Leute erstmal schnallen wird es hier noch richtig abgehen.
Man bedenke, wenn nun Coeur versucht unseren Laden zu schlucken ... aber die größeren Inverstoren von Rye´n nicht mitspielen wollen ... das wird ebenfalls ein Gemetzel.
Man bedenke, wenn nun Coeur versucht unseren Laden zu schlucken ... aber die größeren Inverstoren von Rye´n nicht mitspielen wollen ... das wird ebenfalls ein Gemetzel.
06.12.11 08:53
#96
Ggordie
Für alle Neueinsteiger
http://www.mineweb.com/mineweb/view/mineweb/en/...41072&sn=Detail
Rye Patch seizes golden opportunity on Coeur d'Alene's claim snafu
Coeur d'Alene Mines, a major silver miner in the U.S., said it had failed to pay maintenance fees on claims covering part of its Rochester silver-gold property, which Rye Patch Gold now says it controls.
Author: Kip Keen
Posted: Tuesday , 06 Dec 2011
HALIFAX, NS -
In what may turn out to be a shocking failure on the part of Coeur d'Alene Mines (TSX: CDM) to not pay federal claim maintenance fees on land comprising a swath of its Rochester mine and Nevada Packard property, junior-explorer Rye Patch Gold (TSX-V: RPM) said it swooped in and picked up control over part of one of Coeur d'Alene's chief mining assets in Nevada.
At first, in the hours after Rye Patch announced its apparent coup on the Coeur concessions, it was not clear just how much land and resources were at stake or, indeed, if Coeur d'Alene had made an error at all. Then near the end of the trading day on Monday Coeur d'Alene broke its silence with the message: the land is still ours, but yes, we forgot to pay certain claim maintenance fees.
The first part of the message came in a press release in which Coeur d'Alene said it was suing Rye Patch over what it still considered its own land. But then Coeur d'Alene also corroborated Rye Patch's contention that it had not paid claim maintenance payments on time for key Coeur d'Alene land claims at Rochester, an active silver-gold mine, and Nevada Packard.
In an interview with Mineweb Coeur d'Alene spokesperson Stefany Bales acknowledged that the silver miner had erroneously not made payments on a group of unpatented mining claims covering parts of the Rochester mine and Nevada Packard property. Bales, speaking over the telephone, confirmed that the company had "failed to pay certain claim maintenance fees" on a "substantial" amount of property.
Nonetheless Bales suggested the non-payment did not undermine Coeur d'Alene's rights to the land, despite what Rye Patch contended. In a press release Coeur d'Alene stated "its unpatented claims are valid" and to push its position Coeur d'Alene said it had filed suit against Rye Patch to assert the validity of its claims, to sue for damages and to get "an injunction preventing Rye Patch Gold from interfering with its claims."
Bales, however, would not go into detail as to what grounds Coeur d'Alene may have against Rye Patch. She said Coeur d'Alene was reviewing the matter and that "We can't predict the outcome here."
Aggressive stance though it took, Coeur d'Alene also issued a stark warning that confirmed the stunning amount of reserves and resources in question: as much as 20 percent of its Rochester reserves and other mineralized material could be affected, it said.
If Coeur d'Alene lost that 20 percent it would be a huge blow to the miner, dissolving a significant amount of its reserves and resources following what plausibly may boil down to a silly clerical error. At Rochester, Coeur d'Alene reports some 27.6 million ounces silver and 247,000 ounces gold in proven and probable reserves along with 94.4 million ounces silver and 708,000 ounces gold in measured and indicated resources.
And then there was this: Rye Patch President and CEO William Howald told Mineweb that the claims he said the junior controlled cover active parts of Coeur d'Alene's mining operations included a northern portion of the Rochester open-pit and part of one leach pad.
"Part of the pit that they're mining is on our land," Howald said.
When specifically questioned about whether the unpatented claims comprised a slice of the open pit or leach pad, Bales could not confirm nor deny Howald's claim. Bales responded saying she did not know about those details, though she repeated that "a substantial portion of the unpatented claims" was involved.
Bales also stressed it was mining as usual at Rochester. She did not know, however, if Coeur d'Alene's mine plan would have to change in light of Rye Patch's claims on parts of the Rochester concessions. Coeur d'Alene has said it plans to mine 2.4 million ounces silver and 35,000 ounces gold each year for the next eight years at Rochester.
Howald, however, who spoke with Mineweb over the telephone on Monday before Coeur d'Alene had released its press release announcing it was suing Rye Patch, made it clear the issue came down to a Coeur d'Alene miss step.
"It's a faux pas on their part," he said. The claims came to Rye Patch's attention after it reviewed Unite States Bureau of Land Management records on staked claims on public land, he said.
In a prepared statement Howald laid out Rye Patch's claim for incontrovertible control of the Rochester and Nevada Packard land.
"The process of maintaining unpatented mining claims in the United States of America is clear and unambiguous. If a claim owner does not pay the fee on time, the claim is forfeited and void. The effect of the law's forfeiture provisions is well-established.
"Coeur d'Alene Mines failed to pay the annual mining claim maintenance fee on time and the ground became open for mineral location. Rye Patch investors now have under their control mining claims located on additional gold and silver resources and a portion of the lands formerly part of an active mine."
Howald also said he had spoken with Coeur d'Alene but that the discussion was limited to informing them of Rye Patch's claims to the Rochester property and that Coeur d'Alene was not to trespass on what it now considered Rye Patch land.
"Obviously they're not happy about this," Howald said.
Though the fight over Rochester appears just begun, investors, clearly hoping that Rye Patch is now the owner of valuable reserves and resources at Rochester, stampeded to its stock. Rye Patch's shareprice closed up 84 percent to C$0.71. Coeur d'Alene's shareprice fell one percent to C$28.85.
Rye Patch seizes golden opportunity on Coeur d'Alene's claim snafu
Coeur d'Alene Mines, a major silver miner in the U.S., said it had failed to pay maintenance fees on claims covering part of its Rochester silver-gold property, which Rye Patch Gold now says it controls.
Author: Kip Keen
Posted: Tuesday , 06 Dec 2011
HALIFAX, NS -
In what may turn out to be a shocking failure on the part of Coeur d'Alene Mines (TSX: CDM) to not pay federal claim maintenance fees on land comprising a swath of its Rochester mine and Nevada Packard property, junior-explorer Rye Patch Gold (TSX-V: RPM) said it swooped in and picked up control over part of one of Coeur d'Alene's chief mining assets in Nevada.
At first, in the hours after Rye Patch announced its apparent coup on the Coeur concessions, it was not clear just how much land and resources were at stake or, indeed, if Coeur d'Alene had made an error at all. Then near the end of the trading day on Monday Coeur d'Alene broke its silence with the message: the land is still ours, but yes, we forgot to pay certain claim maintenance fees.
The first part of the message came in a press release in which Coeur d'Alene said it was suing Rye Patch over what it still considered its own land. But then Coeur d'Alene also corroborated Rye Patch's contention that it had not paid claim maintenance payments on time for key Coeur d'Alene land claims at Rochester, an active silver-gold mine, and Nevada Packard.
In an interview with Mineweb Coeur d'Alene spokesperson Stefany Bales acknowledged that the silver miner had erroneously not made payments on a group of unpatented mining claims covering parts of the Rochester mine and Nevada Packard property. Bales, speaking over the telephone, confirmed that the company had "failed to pay certain claim maintenance fees" on a "substantial" amount of property.
Nonetheless Bales suggested the non-payment did not undermine Coeur d'Alene's rights to the land, despite what Rye Patch contended. In a press release Coeur d'Alene stated "its unpatented claims are valid" and to push its position Coeur d'Alene said it had filed suit against Rye Patch to assert the validity of its claims, to sue for damages and to get "an injunction preventing Rye Patch Gold from interfering with its claims."
Bales, however, would not go into detail as to what grounds Coeur d'Alene may have against Rye Patch. She said Coeur d'Alene was reviewing the matter and that "We can't predict the outcome here."
Aggressive stance though it took, Coeur d'Alene also issued a stark warning that confirmed the stunning amount of reserves and resources in question: as much as 20 percent of its Rochester reserves and other mineralized material could be affected, it said.
If Coeur d'Alene lost that 20 percent it would be a huge blow to the miner, dissolving a significant amount of its reserves and resources following what plausibly may boil down to a silly clerical error. At Rochester, Coeur d'Alene reports some 27.6 million ounces silver and 247,000 ounces gold in proven and probable reserves along with 94.4 million ounces silver and 708,000 ounces gold in measured and indicated resources.
And then there was this: Rye Patch President and CEO William Howald told Mineweb that the claims he said the junior controlled cover active parts of Coeur d'Alene's mining operations included a northern portion of the Rochester open-pit and part of one leach pad.
"Part of the pit that they're mining is on our land," Howald said.
When specifically questioned about whether the unpatented claims comprised a slice of the open pit or leach pad, Bales could not confirm nor deny Howald's claim. Bales responded saying she did not know about those details, though she repeated that "a substantial portion of the unpatented claims" was involved.
Bales also stressed it was mining as usual at Rochester. She did not know, however, if Coeur d'Alene's mine plan would have to change in light of Rye Patch's claims on parts of the Rochester concessions. Coeur d'Alene has said it plans to mine 2.4 million ounces silver and 35,000 ounces gold each year for the next eight years at Rochester.
Howald, however, who spoke with Mineweb over the telephone on Monday before Coeur d'Alene had released its press release announcing it was suing Rye Patch, made it clear the issue came down to a Coeur d'Alene miss step.
"It's a faux pas on their part," he said. The claims came to Rye Patch's attention after it reviewed Unite States Bureau of Land Management records on staked claims on public land, he said.
In a prepared statement Howald laid out Rye Patch's claim for incontrovertible control of the Rochester and Nevada Packard land.
"The process of maintaining unpatented mining claims in the United States of America is clear and unambiguous. If a claim owner does not pay the fee on time, the claim is forfeited and void. The effect of the law's forfeiture provisions is well-established.
"Coeur d'Alene Mines failed to pay the annual mining claim maintenance fee on time and the ground became open for mineral location. Rye Patch investors now have under their control mining claims located on additional gold and silver resources and a portion of the lands formerly part of an active mine."
Howald also said he had spoken with Coeur d'Alene but that the discussion was limited to informing them of Rye Patch's claims to the Rochester property and that Coeur d'Alene was not to trespass on what it now considered Rye Patch land.
"Obviously they're not happy about this," Howald said.
Though the fight over Rochester appears just begun, investors, clearly hoping that Rye Patch is now the owner of valuable reserves and resources at Rochester, stampeded to its stock. Rye Patch's shareprice closed up 84 percent to C$0.71. Coeur d'Alene's shareprice fell one percent to C$28.85.
06.12.11 09:11
#97
Fliegenfänger
Nun ja, dann ist diesen Investment ja mal eine...
richtige "Goldgrube" :-)
Klasse :-)
Klasse :-)
06.12.11 09:20
#99
km4900
Ggordie
Danke für das Einstellen des Beitrages.
Besteht hier trotzdem noch die Möglichkeit, dass Rye Patch die Claims an Coeur d'Alene zurückgeben muss. Einspruch, Klage oder was weiß ich....
Hab mich mit Rye noch nicht so genau befasst, werde mich aber gleich einlesen.
Gruß
Besteht hier trotzdem noch die Möglichkeit, dass Rye Patch die Claims an Coeur d'Alene zurückgeben muss. Einspruch, Klage oder was weiß ich....
Hab mich mit Rye noch nicht so genau befasst, werde mich aber gleich einlesen.
Gruß
06.12.11 09:21
#100
Ggordie
...
Ich suche später nochmal das Gesetz raus, aber die Lage scheint eindeutig das Rye´n im Recht ist.